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Contributed by Rob
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Whats all this about smokers complaining that they might have to wait longer for NHS treatment?
Well it seems to make perfect sense to me! Smokers put their own health at risk and then expect the NHS to patch them up. Its not on if you ask me. Smokers are aware of what they are doing to themselves, about all the harm that smoking does to them, the money it costs, the damage it does to others etc, but does that stop them?? The NHS ought to treat the people that at least try to look after themselves first
Why cant they see what to do and simply stop smoking?
I get sick and tired of seeing and hearing smokers (they are self harmers aren't they?) complaining about their health, that they are unfit, they can't breath etc etc when they really need to be complaining that they are still smoking. Give it rest and get the bloody patches on and STOP!! or accept that the NHS can do less for you then it can for non-smokers.
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Smoked and Almost Died
Written by Guest on 2005-12-31 15:15:31
Well, I smoked 40-50 a day and it almost killed me. An emergency NHS operation saved me and it now costs the state around £120 a day to keep me alive. Maybe I should have been left to perish? What would that have saved the taxpayers? Let's see. My children would have been orphans and in need of state support, something which would definitely cost more than £120 a day, especially as one has special needs. Not to mention the cost to them a well-balanced individuals - who knows what losing their mother (their only practising parent) might have done to them mentally. If it sent them over the edge and into a life of drugs and crime, there's no saying what the cost to society might have been.
Things are never quite as black and white as they first appear. There are arguments on both sides of the fence. And while I accept that my condition was self-inflicted, show me ONE person who has never done anything that could have led to them being seriously hurt even though they knew what the consequences were, and I'll show you a liar! Never run across a road even though you were cutting it fine as far as the traffic coming towards you was concerned? Never had one too many on a Saturday night and found yourself alone with a stranger? Never left your drink unattended knowing full well that somebody could possibly spike it? The list could continue forever!
Isn't it time people stopped trying to be the saints that they're not, and accept that we all make mistakes? The problem, as I see it, is whether or not we learn from those mistakes. If I were to continue smoking, knowing full well that the result would be even more damage to my health and greater cost to the taxpayer, then yes, I should be sent to the back of the queue, but can you really throw that first stone?
The list of those to go to the back of the queue if their health condition is a result of their actions must surely include:
- those who regularly drink alcohol
- those who regularly eat high colostrol food
- those who do not get the minimum recommended amount of exercise
- those who use recreational drugs
- those who stay with abusive partners even though they've been beaten by him/her at an earlier point
- those who drive faster than the speed limit or otherwise drive without due care and attention (not to mention recklessly)
- those who just happened to be daydreaming when they stepped off the kerb into the road only to be hit by an oncoming vehicle (hey, that ambulance could be put to better use going to heart attack victim who's led a faultless life, surely?)
I'm in no way trying to defend smoking - it's bad for you and the quicker it's banned in ALL public places the better, but I really can't see the sense behind your NHS argument.
| Swings & Roundabouts
Written by Guest on 2006-01-15 11:34:41
Even as a smoker I can )to a point) agree with some of the main topic and also with all of the posted response. My point is that we are still paying for the NHS through our taxes so shouldn't we be entitled to that treatment? Secondly, if all smokers gave up it would be the non-smokers that would suffer as the government would have to make up the shortfall from all the money they would lose in tax (exploitation in rip off britain.) Although I smoke I consider myself very fit - not all smokers should be tarred with the same brush - take a look at how many premiership footballers smoke - David James did for 14 years!
| Thank you smokers
Written by Guest on 2006-01-15 18:50:21
After an obligatory night out in the pub with my friends, of whom 12 were smoking, I had a really bad chest infection. I thought nothing of it. It got worse and worse, but my doctor said there was nothing wrong with me, but I should avoid smokey atmospheres. Luckily I work in a hospital, because one day I was admitted with pneumonia. The cause was (other than not being treated from the start) inhaling other people's smoke.
So I would just like to thank all my friends, and other smokers for their handy work.
And before all the smokers start banging on about how I didn't HAVE to be in the pub, I'd just like to say that I don't see why I should have to avoid pubs - they're not JUST for smokers you know!
Surely it's EVERYONE'S right to have a smoke-free environment, and it's certainly everyone's right not to have to suffer.
The sooner it's banned the better.
| Written by kibble on 2006-05-17 10:29:49
Smoking... It always ruffles people, including myself. I have to say I'm against smoking; I have been around people who smoke all my life, my father, friends and so forth. You know what; it pissed me off no end. Mind you I never "said" anything, apart from times when my mates have handed me their smoke and told me to hold it while they pick up their gear, and I snapped the thing and stamped on it.
I hope smoking is banned, and hopefully situations such as explained in the first post won’t happen in such light that they brought it upon themselves. The same applies for other self harm issue like alcohol, high cholesterol food & recreational drugs, it would be great if we could monitor and regulate these factors, but including smoking, we can’t. It’s up to the individual to do so, and we all know that most of these people can’t be helped. So when it comes to issue involving the NHS, I say that these people deserve what they get, and just like driving above the speed limit & if they take other people out with them [or leave family behind] it’s their own stupid mistake to harm, kill or damage others heath/quality of living. I just wish they’d stop doing this.
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